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To moderator of FAO Family Poultry Forum

I would be pleased if you could confirm that the lack of information is not
on my side.
I'm sorry to repeat that all inactivated vaccines produced by reputable
international pharmaceutical companies are quite enough thermostable and
have been used successfully without any problem by rural family poultry
owners where they have been adequately distributed by relevant professional
networks even in the poorest and remotest African countries.
It is hard to believe that 35 years of experience and hundred of millions
vaccinated rural poultry from millions of rural farmers should still
continue to be ignored.
Many articles and conferences have been made on the successful and very cost
beneficial usage of commercial inactivated vaccines in rural poultry
(without possibility to maintain a cold chain).
We could provide data and documents if needed. I'll transfer this answer to
relevant resources persons for their information.

Sincerely

ERIC FQ




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Dear all,
 
The message below refers. It has a strong element of lack of information
from the sender. A thermostable vaccine is almost a must for the African FP.
I have been personally commissioned to conduct a market studies on the
thermostable vaccine by Global Alliance for Livestock Veterinary Medicines
(GALVMED) last year in the SADC region. Besides South Africa and Zimbabwe
where the cold chain can be maintained, this is just not possible for the
rest of the region. The veterinary service is lacking and ill-equipped.
Where the system has been partially privatised, the vaccinators  charge up
to the equivalent of one dollar to cover for the wasted vaccine. Remember
these vaccines are sold in 100 to 1000 doses, meaning that at any given
time, the vaccinator will never get the adequate number to vaccinate.
 
There is a need for an holistic approach to health issues of the FP. The
Mozambican experience is a success story I have seen.
 
Just my prompt response
 
Regards,
Dibungi
 
 
Dr Dibungi Luseba 
DrMedVet (L'SHI), MSc (Agric), PhD (Pret.)
Dept Animal Sciences, Faculty of Science
Tshwane University of Technology
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South Africa
Visit us at: www.tut.ac.za
 
 
 

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Dear All,

 

Sorry for my very low level of participation in the forum but I'm almost
always in mission and out of connection.

 

There is one single point that I would like to make clear about family
poultry vaccination against Newcastle disease (subject mentioned in the
email below):

Thermostable vaccines adapted to family poultry are available from many
brand names of very well known veterinary pharmaceutical companies.

These vaccines are inactivated and one shot of vaccine is globally enough
for the production cycle of family poultry population.

This is know at least since 1978.

Hundred of millions of family poultry have been vaccinated successfully by
farmers themselves and with full cost recovery of the vaccines sold by
veterinarians.

There is a clear reason for that: everybody is ready to spend 0,1
USD/dose=poultry because 6-8 months later this poultry will be sold 2-3 USD.

 

The fact that, still, many scientists and development agencies, continue to
claim for "thermostable vaccine" is just a pity and a proof of lack of
communication.

 

I'm ready to send again, if necessary the CD Rom that has been made about
this matter.

 

Sincerely

 

ERIC FERMET-QUINET

 

 

 

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Dear colleagues this is Datta Rangnrkar from India again mailing views and
comments on topics 1 and 3.

*2. The contribution of research to the development of family poultry
production systems.*



·        There is very little research, in India, on family poultry
production systems, economics and such related aspects and if there is some
the results are not easily available (not well publicized)*.* Having said
that I must also mention that the major contribution of research has been
to develop Œlow input varieties of birds (synthetics/hybrids)¹ that looks
like indigenous bird and needs low inputs.* *These varieties are developed
by breeding farms / research institutes/centers of the Indian Council of
Agri. Research (ICAR) as well as private hatcheries and recommended for
distribution under Government schemes for development of family poultry.
While there are claims that these new birds the real picture will emerge
after the Govt. grants and subsidies are withdrawn.

·        Studies on role of family poultry from the perspective of
livelihood systems perspective are lacking. With due apologies let me state
that the Œusual reductionist approach adopted in research¹ does not suit
studies on family poultry and there is need for paradigm change and
adoption of Œsystems and participatory approach¹. Results of studies with
such an approach would help in making development of family poultry more
effective.

·        While genetic characterization of indigenous fowl is lacking
there is need to take up research related to health aspects on priority.

·        As always, the families living in relatively better developed
areas get benefits of research.

·          There is need for shift from the conventional ŒTransfer of
Technology¹ approach and attempts should be made to assess and prioritize
needs of family poultry and select appropriate technologies. However, the
fact remains that family poultry does not attract much attention (for
funding) in view of low commercial value. A good example is
non-availability of Œheat resistant or tolerant vaccine¹ in India although
in many parts of the country maintaining cold chain is not possible and
hence poor coverage through vaccination of birds maintained by families in
interior rural areas resulting in heavy losses.

·        The expertise developed in commercial poultry industry is not
much use for family poultry. However, commercial hatcheries have made good
contribution by developing a dual type/low input bird.

·        Any product of research (recommendations or technology) which is
not only technically sound, economically beneficial but also socially
adoptable and not risky would be welcome by family poultry producers. Help
in developing low cost housing based on local material was most welcome by
family producers.

3. *Competing or complementing commercial poultry production systems?*

·          Household consumption vs. commercialization of family poultry -
which is best? There is basic flaw in this concept since family poultry has
multiple functions e.g. contribution to family income, nutrition and risk
coverage (an addition is empowerment of women since it is usually managed
by women).

·          Family poultry contributes substantially towards protein needs
and in some states of India as much as 50% of poultry production is from
family poultry. However, much of the contribution as protein source is
hidden and not accounted for through conventional surveys carried out since
the families do not keep records of home consumption or for social events.

·          As mentioned earlier family poultry does not have problem of
selling the produce ­ consumers and retailers come to them in most cases.
Families keeping small number of birds ­ indigenous fowl ­ under
free-ranging low external input system have a niche market and get higher
price for their produce. In general the family units are most likely to be
competitive in view of low establishment cost and overheads.

·          Traditional family poultry units do not compete for food/feed
and are likely to meet food safety and even welfare standards as compared
to commercial intensive system based farms (do not use growth promoters).

·          Rising per-capita income is increasing demand for products from
traditional family poultry since people from peri-urban and urban areas are
willing to pay higher price for products having more appealing taste and
flavor.

·          It is not proper to compare low external input family poultry
and high external input commercial farms in an ad-hoc manner since each has
place and situations in different regions of a developing country differ.
For example in India there are several pockets where establishing large
commercial farms is not feasible due to some constraints and family poultry
can make substantial contribution to poultry products.

Best wishes.


Datta

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Dear colleagues this is Datta Rangnrkar from India again mailing views and
comments on topics 1 and 3.

 

 2. The contribution of research to the development of family poultry
production systems.

 

·        There is very little research, in India, on family poultry
production systems, economics and such related aspects and if there is some
the results are not easily available (not well publicized). Having said that
I must also mention that the major contribution of research has been to
develop Œlow input varieties of birds (synthetics/hybrids)¹ that looks like
indigenous bird and needs low inputs.These varieties are developed by
breeding farms / research institutes/centers of the Indian Council of Agri.
Research (ICAR) as well as private hatcheries and recommended for
distribution under Government schemes for development of family poultry.
While there are claims that these new birds the real picture will emerge
after the Govt. grants and subsidies are withdrawn.

·        Studies on role of family poultry from the perspective of
livelihood systems perspective are lacking. With due apologies let me state
that the Œusual reductionist approach adopted in research¹ does not suit
studies on family poultry and there is need for paradigm change and adoption
of Œsystems and participatory approach¹. Results of studies with such an
approach would help in making development of family poultry more effective.

·        While genetic characterization of indigenous fowl is lacking there
is need to take up research related to health aspects on priority.

·        As always, the families living in relatively better developed areas
get benefits of research.

·         There is need for shift from the conventional ŒTransfer of
Technology¹ approach and attempts should be made to assess and prioritize
needs of family poultry and select appropriate technologies. However, the
fact remains that family poultry does not attract much attention (for
funding) in view of low commercial value. Agood example is non-availability
of Œheat resistant or tolerant vaccine¹ in India although in many parts of
the country maintaining cold chain is not possible and hence poor coverage
through vaccination of birds maintained byfamilies in interior rural areas
resulting in heavy losses.

·        The expertise developed in commercial poultry industry is not much
use for family poultry. However, commercial hatcherieshave made good
contribution by developing a dual type/low input bird.

·        Any product of research (recommendations or technology) which is
not only technically sound, economically beneficial but also socially
adoptable and not risky would be welcome by family poultry producers. Help
in developing low cost housing based on local material was most welcome by
family producers.

 3. Competing or complementing commercial poultry production systems?

·         Household consumption vs. commercialization of family poultry -
which is best? There is basic flaw in this concept since family poultry has
multiple functions e.g.contribution to family income, nutrition and risk
coverage (an addition is empowerment of women since it is usually managed by
women).

·         Family poultry contributes substantially towards protein needs and
in some states of India as much as 50% of poultry production is from family
poultry. However,much of the contribution as protein source is hidden and
not accounted for through conventional surveys carried out since the
families do not keep records of home consumption or for social events.

·         As mentioned earlier family poultry does not have problem of
selling the produce ­ consumers and retailers come to them in most cases.
Families keeping small number of birds ­ indigenous fowl ­ under
free-ranging low external input system have a niche market and get higher
price for their produce. In general the family units are most likely to be
competitive in view of low establishment cost and overheads.

·         Traditional family poultry units do not compete for food/feed and
are likely to meet food safety and even welfare standards as compared to
commercial intensive system based farms (do not use growth promoters).

·         Rising per-capita income is increasing demand for products from
traditional familypoultry since people from peri-urban and urban areas are
willing to pay higher price for products having more appealing taste and
flavor.  

·         It is not proper to compare low external input family poultry and
high external input commercial farms in an ad-hoc manner since each has
place and situations in different regions of a developing country differ.
For example in India there are several pockets where establishing large
commercial farms is not feasible due to some constraints and family poultry
can make substantial contribution to poultry products.

Best wishes.

 

Datta 

 
 
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