Dear friends,

 

This is the image of a pouch with stand up carton support. It is from a dairy in Rajasthan dealing in milk and other fermented milk products. This pouch is for buttermilk.

 There is no need to reinvent the wheel . We could support anyone with the designs and specs for the packaging material for milk and other milk products.

With best regards

 

Kuldeep Sharma

Thinkdairy

India

 

 

Hello,

 

The eminently organized Swiss have been using bags and jugs forever, and the jug can be exactly the same size and shape as a carton, and therefore fit in the fridge door shelf.  Bags are a very reasonable form of packaging, although see-through is not a good option, as milk is light-sensitive.

 

However, in Mauritania, and maybe other poor countries, most people don't have fridges, or can't keep anything in them owing to large families, so they buy milk for immediate consumption - 0.5 or 0.25 litres. The real problem was "suckling" the bag, felt as undignified. Besides, drinks are served in social settings together with sodas or fruit juices, on a tray, and cartons look so much nicer.

 

We thought that cultured milk, which is used to mix with water and serve in a collective bowl (or jug nowadays) would be opened in the kitchen, and therefore a bag would not be a problem, but it still was not accepted.  

 

Best regards,

 

Nancy

 

 

 

 

From: FAO-Dairy-Outlook <[log in to unmask]>
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Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 14:08:57 +0100
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Subject: FW: 2 comment2: Kenya dairy company markets traditionally fermented milk products

 

Mr Muriuki, it is always nice to read your contributions.

 

Researchers are mostly busy doing research for big corporations, as now it is not fashionable for Governments to fund research…

 

Actually, nice sitting-base pouches and acre covers would be more expensive than cartons.  

 

Mr Tezira, thanks for the information.  Any dairy that can sell all its production the same day is very lucky.  Things get complicated when production increases, the weather changes, and retailers cannot be served every day.  Then products need to be stored for longer.

 

Best regards to all

 

Nancy

 

 

 

Le 26 févr. 2013 à 05:58, FAO-Dairy-Outlook a écrit :



 

Dear Outlookers,
As Nancy observes, the consumers have problem with pouches. But the obvious problem of the pouch is that if you are not completely emptying it after opening, it is not easy to handle - does not sit well with contents. Maybe there is need for more work on handling of the plastic pouch particularly if the content is not completely emptied on initial opening. Try attaching a sitting base and an outlet with reusable screw-able covers - but maintain the cost advantage over the others. Where are the Researchers?
Hezekiah G. Muriuki
Nairobi, Kenya
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I contacted Kim Martin of Ches Dairies via the Standard newspaper journalist. He says that they do not experience problems of swelling of milk pouches because they generally pack the mursik and sell on the same day and the product is consumed the very next day in most cases.

 

Regards

 

Tezira

 

TEZIRA LORE

International Livestock Research Institute (ILRI)

 


Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 10:02:00 +0100
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Subject: comment: Kenya dairy company markets traditionally fermented milk products
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Hello,

 

In Mauritania, fermented milk in pouches has been produced and sold since the eighties including 1/8 litre ones.  However, thedairies currently making these small pouches all use imported milk powder and no doubt imported starter culture.

 

Our dairy, Tiviski, first attempted to produce traditional fermented milk, using fresh pasteurized camel or cow milk and local traditionally fermented milk as a starter culture (because the flavor is so good). We bought a nice new little goat skin, specially treated for milk, and tried to use the traditional stuff to make our own starter.  We quickly found that the cartons we were packaging the cultured milk in swelled up like balloons. The same would have happened with pouches of course.

 

We figured out that the problem was that some of the micro-organisms involved in the traditional method, which give the particular aroma to milk in each part of the world, generate gas.  Besides, they are unpredictable and it is very difficult to keep a constant flavour and to prevent the milk from going wrong during its shelf life.

 

We had to fall back on commercial starter cultures imported from Europe, which do not have the lovely aroma, but are regular, reliable, controllable, uncontaminated, and enable us to sell fermented milk in cartons (or pouches) with a 20-day shelf life (refrigerated of course).  Consumers seem quite happy with the flavor, which is actually very pleasant.

 

We also found that although we started selling fermented milk in pouches, our consumers hated them so much that they were willing to pay more for small 1/4 litre cartons.

 

It would be interesting to know how Ches Dairies manages to prevent the pouches from looking like balloons - and from leaking when they inflate like that, particularly as the milk does not even seem to be pasteurised.  Maybe they are designed to be sold within 24 hours, which is fine as long as demand exceeds supply, but it carries the risk of seeing spoiled milk otherwise.

 

Best regards

 

Nancy Abeiderrahmane

Mauritania

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Le 19 févr. 2013 à 11:04, FAO-Dairy-Outlook a écrit :

 

Dear all

 

You may be interested in reading the attached newspaper clipping from Kenya (The Standard, 19 February 2013) titled, “Dairy firm takes popular mursik to shops”.

 

The story is about Ches Dairies, the first dairy company in Kenya to market traditionally fermented milk products. Mursik is a traditional sour milk product of the Kalenjin community in Kenya. The traditional way of making mursik involves spontaneous fermentation of the milk in a gourd through the action of mixed microflora. Ches Dairies is marketing mursik in plastic pouches that are now commonly used in Kenya to package liquid milk.

 

Regards

 

Tezira

 

TEZIRA LORE

International Livestock Research Institute (ILRI)

 

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