Dear David, In the Netherlands we consider available carbohydrates as the sum of 'sugars' and starch, but not including polyols and organic acids. 'Sugars' we define as the sum of mono and disaccharides (sucrose, glucose, fructose, lactose, maltose, galactose) present in the food. With kind regards, Susanne Susanne Westenbrink Rijksinstituut voor Volksgezondheid en Milieu (RIVM) / National Institute for Public Health and the Environment Centrum voor Voeding, Preventie en Zorg / Centre for Nutrition, Prevention and Health Services PO Box 1 3720 BA Bilthoven The Netherlands tel: +31 (0) 30 274 2448 fax: +31 (0) 30 274 4466 e-mail: [log in to unmask] for more information on the Dutch food composition database see http://www.rivm.nl/nevo http://nevo-online.rivm.nl From: Anders Møller <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask], Date: 20-12-2017 22:22 Subject: Re: Available Carbohydrates Sent by: Food Composition Discussion Group <[log in to unmask]> Dear David, A nice subject for a good discussion J In European legislation sugars are defined like this ” ‘sugars’ means all monosaccharides and disaccharides present in food, but excludes polyols” (REGULATION (EU) No 1169/2011 OF THE EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT AND OF THE COUNCIL of 25 October 2011 on the provision of food information to consumers, http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELEX:32011R1169&from=en ). In the Codex Alimentarius Food Labelling Standard the definition is “Sugars means all mono-saccharides and di-saccharides present in food” (General Standard for the Labelling of Prepackaged Foods – CODEX STAN 1 – 1985, amended 2010, http://www.fao.org/fao-who-codexalimentarius/sh-proxy/en/?lnk=1&url=https%253A%252F%252Fworkspace.fao.org%252Fsites%252Fcodex%252FStandards%252FCODEX%2BSTAN%2B1-1985%252FCXS_001e.pdf ). In past Danish regulations, the definition included mono-, di- and trisaccharides. Season’s Greetings from Roskilde, Anders Anders Møller Danish Food Informatics Borgediget 12 DK-4000 Roskilde, Denmark From: Food Composition Discussion Group [ mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Mark Wahlqvist Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 21:50 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Available Carbohydrates The approach suggested of Available Carbohydrates will obscur the extensive differences in functionality of the various carbohydrates.It will add to the present confusion through oversimplification of food macronutrients ,playing into the hands of food mischief- makers. Much difference among carbohydrates sources resides in food structure, without which informed decision-making about macronutrients is not possible.Let's not pretend otherwise. Regards Professor Mark L Wahlqvist MD FRACP,FAFPHM,FAIFST Past President IUNS On 21 Dec. 2017 07:01, "Haytowitz, David" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: Hello: As we redesign our Nutrient Databank System we will be adding “Available Carbohydrates” to the database. We understand “Available carbohydrate” to be the sum of sugar and starch, However, we wonder which sugars are included in the value for sugar. Is the value for sugars just the sum of the individual monosaccharides and disaccharides (sucrose, glucose, fructose, lactose, maltose, galactose) or do they include other sugars (Dextrins, inulin, oligosaccharides, organic acids and sugar alcohols)? Thanks, David David B. Haytowitz Nutritionist Nutrient Data Laboratory, USDA-ARS 10300 Baltimore Ave. B-005, Rm. 161, BARC-West Beltsville, MD 20705 Ph. 301-504-0714 [log in to unmask] This electronic message contains information generated by the USDA solely for the intended recipients. 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